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'''{{int:i18n-form-wiki}}''': [[w:c:prison-school]]

'''{{int:i18n-form-items}}''': I need to know what 戦国'''やらいでか'''-乱舞伝- means. Sorry for the stupidly short request lol.

'''{{int:i18n-form-extrainfo}}''': For the wiki's purposes, 戦国=Sengoku and 乱舞伝=Wild Dance Legend using J-Talk.

'''{{int:i18n-form-signature}}''': [[User:Speedit|<span style="padding-bottom:2px;font-family:sans-serif; background-color:#000; font-size:14px; border-top-left-radius: 4px; border-bottom-left-radius: 4px; border:#3685FF 1px solid; border-right:#3685FF 1px solid; color:#3685FF; vertical-align:center;"><i>&nbsp;'''Speedit'''&nbsp;</i></span>]]<span style="background-color:#FFF;padding-bottom:3px;border:#3685FF 1px solid;border-bottom:#3685FF 1px solid;padding-top:2px;margin-top:1px;"> [[w:c:prison-school:Message Wall:Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;">♞</span>]] </span><span style="padding-bottom:2px;font-family:sans-serif; font-size:14px; background-color:#000; border-left:#FFF 0px solid; border:#3685FF 1px solid;color:#3685FF;border-top-right-radius: 4px; border-bottom-right-radius: 4px;">&nbsp;[[Message Wall:Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;"><i>talk</i></span>]] [[:Special:Contributions/Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;"><i>contribs</i></span>]]&nbsp;</span> 19:08, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Is it [http://www.androidapps.biz/game/com.square_enix.sengoku_yaraideka.googleplay Sengoku and hesitation or in - Wild Dance Legend -] ? Or is it something of Prison School??

In any case, やらいでか means "cannot stop doing". --[[User:Plover-Y|Plover-Y]] ([[User_talk:Plover-Y|talk]]) 2016-05-02 17:54 (UTC)

:Perhaps "Endless Warring States"? [[User:Speedit|<span style="padding-bottom:2px;font-family:sans-serif; background-color:#000; font-size:14px; border-top-left-radius: 4px; border-bottom-left-radius: 4px; border:#3685FF 1px solid; border-right:#3685FF 1px solid; color:#3685FF; vertical-align:center;"><i>&nbsp;'''Speedit'''&nbsp;</i></span>]]<span style="background-color:#FFF;padding-bottom:3px;border:#3685FF 1px solid;border-bottom:#3685FF 1px solid;padding-top:2px;margin-top:1px;"> [[w:c:prison-school:Message Wall:Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;">♞</span>]] </span><span style="padding-bottom:2px;font-family:sans-serif; font-size:14px; background-color:#000; border-left:#FFF 0px solid; border:#3685FF 1px solid;color:#3685FF;border-top-right-radius: 4px; border-bottom-right-radius: 4px;">&nbsp;[[Message Wall:Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;"><i>talk</i></span>]] [[:Special:Contributions/Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;"><i>contribs</i></span>]]&nbsp;</span> 18:11, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

:Maybe Civil War; We cannot stop fighting ...?
:: cf. This page uses "戦らずにはいられない" [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.square_enix.sengoku_yaraideka.googleplay&hl=ja] --[[User:Plover-Y|Plover-Y]] ([[User_talk:Plover-Y|talk]]) 2016-05-02 18:33 (UTC)

:Yeah, it definitely doesn't look like a Prison School thing; it seems like it's an app of a game about the Sengoku (warring states) period.
:<span style="font-size:11px;">[[User:Yatalu|YATTA]] [[User_talk:Yatalu|ヽ( ° ヮ° )ﾉ]] <helper /> ☆ 2016年05月03日、13:52:06</span>&nbsp;

::[http://prison-anime.com/news/index.html#news89] Here's the context - a gimmicky game collab.

::If Japanese is subject-object-verb, is it okay to translate it word by word to English as ''Yaraideka'' then ''Sengoku''? That makes no sense in Japanese but I hope you understand lol. If so, the translation "Endless Warring States" is good enough seeing as it fits the context.
::[[User:Speedit|<span style="padding-bottom:2px;font-family:sans-serif; background-color:#000; font-size:14px; border-top-left-radius: 4px; border-bottom-left-radius: 4px; border:#3685FF 1px solid; border-right:#3685FF 1px solid; color:#3685FF; vertical-align:center;"><i>&nbsp;'''Speedit'''&nbsp;</i></span>]]<span style="background-color:#FFF;padding-bottom:3px;border:#3685FF 1px solid;border-bottom:#3685FF 1px solid;padding-top:2px;margin-top:1px;"> [[w:c:prison-school:Message Wall:Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;">♞</span>]] </span><span style="padding-bottom:2px;font-family:sans-serif; font-size:14px; background-color:#000; border-left:#FFF 0px solid; border:#3685FF 1px solid;color:#3685FF;border-top-right-radius: 4px; border-bottom-right-radius: 4px;">&nbsp;[[Message Wall:Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;"><i>talk</i></span>]] [[:Special:Contributions/Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;"><i>contribs</i></span>]]&nbsp;</span> 17:44, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

:::If you want to transcribe the Japanese title without translating it'd be "Sengoku yaraide ka" in my opinion; you can't really change the order. It's like "Shingeki no Kyojin" or other anime titles — if you keep them Japanese you keep the order.

:::That being said yeah, it indeed seems like a game collab. "Sengoku" is Japanese for "Warring States" but it's a fairly well-known term (especially in Japan; the game genre is "Dramatic Sengoku RPG"). 
:::"Yaraideka/Yaraide ka" is difficult to translate because it's a contracted form that occurs in dialect. It's like "it's impossible not to ___", "we really have to ____", so maybe you can translate it as "We must undertake the Sengoku" ? It's very hard to translate fluently.

:::<span style="font-size:11px;">[[User:Yatalu|YATTA]] [[User_talk:Yatalu|ヽ( ° ヮ° )ﾉ]] <helper /> ☆ 2016年05月03日、20:53:43</span>&nbsp;

::::A few clarifications, I'm really bad at getting people to understand what I say the first time :D

::::I've got no intention of putting ''Yaraideka Sengoku'' on the page, I was interesting in knowing if the translation is still valid if its something like "Endless Warring States" rather than "Warring States: Continuum" - hence the subject-order-verb question.

::::But it kinda sounds like its more like "Warring States: Coercion". Even though this is getting really deep into one word in my opinion. [[User:Speedit|<span style="padding-bottom:2px;font-family:sans-serif; background-color:#000; font-size:14px; border-top-left-radius: 4px; border-bottom-left-radius: 4px; border:#3685FF 1px solid; border-right:#3685FF 1px solid; color:#3685FF; vertical-align:center;"><i>&nbsp;'''Speedit'''&nbsp;</i></span>]]<span style="background-color:#FFF;padding-bottom:3px;border:#3685FF 1px solid;border-bottom:#3685FF 1px solid;padding-top:2px;margin-top:1px;"> [[w:c:prison-school:Message Wall:Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;">♞</span>]] </span><span style="padding-bottom:2px;font-family:sans-serif; font-size:14px; background-color:#000; border-left:#FFF 0px solid; border:#3685FF 1px solid;color:#3685FF;border-top-right-radius: 4px; border-bottom-right-radius: 4px;">&nbsp;[[Message Wall:Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;"><i>talk</i></span>]] [[:Special:Contributions/Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;"><i>contribs</i></span>]]&nbsp;</span> 21:57, May 3, 2016 (UTC)
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[http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/052/1052609/ This article from Dengeki ] describes やらいでか as <s>居られない, which I'd read as "unending"</s>. [[User:Speedit|<span style="padding-bottom:2px;font-family:sans-serif; background-color:#000; font-size:14px; border-top-left-radius: 4px; border-bottom-left-radius: 4px; border:#3685FF 1px solid; border-right:#3685FF 1px solid; color:#3685FF; vertical-align:center;"><i>&nbsp;'''Speedit'''&nbsp;</i></span>]]<span style="background-color:#FFF;padding-bottom:3px;border:#3685FF 1px solid;border-bottom:#3685FF 1px solid;padding-top:2px;margin-top:1px;"> [[w:c:prison-school:Message Wall:Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;">♞</span>]] </span><span style="padding-bottom:2px;font-family:sans-serif; font-size:14px; background-color:#000; border-left:#FFF 0px solid; border:#3685FF 1px solid;color:#3685FF;border-top-right-radius: 4px; border-bottom-right-radius: 4px;">&nbsp;[[Message Wall:Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;"><i>talk</i></span>]] [[:Special:Contributions/Speedit|<span style="color:#3685FF;"><i>contribs</i></span>]]&nbsp;</span> 10:04, May 11, 2016 (UTC) <small>EDIT: Whoops, 勘違い. 10:37, May 11, 2016 (UTC)</small>

Excuse me, but no, it doesn't mean (only) "居られない". The article says it means "やらずにはいられない". "やらいでか" is a rhetorical question. About the text "やらずにいられるか。いや、いられない！" which is on the page you linked, "やらずにいられるか。" (Can S stop/help doing?) is a literal translation of "やらいでか", and "いや、(やらずには) いられない！" (No, S cannot stop/help doing) is the actual meaning which the text would like to say. --[[User:Plover-Y|Plover-Y]] ([[User_talk:Plover-Y|talk]]) 2016-05-11  11:04 (UTC)

I'm sorry I misread the article. Its hard to understand a language I haven't actually dedicated myself to learning, let alone interpret humour and rhetoric apart from fact in it.

If its impossible to sum up Yaraideka in one word, I will go with "The Warring States That Cannot Stop". Its my understanding that the subject "states" are interacting with the second verb "stop" as well as the first one "war" - making "Endless Warring States" wrong.

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